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Sage Family

Nov 28, 2023

“What happens when you don’t teach a whole group of people to understand their emotions is that they become extremely emotionally dysregulated . . . it then tends to be a woman who is tasked with modulated that partner’s expression, especially when there are kids involved and you’re trying to be a buffer between that temper—that mood—and your children.”

Rose Hackman joins me in today’s episode about Emotional Labor.

Rose is a British journalist and the author of Emotional Labor.

We discuss what emotional labor is, how it develops, the problem of it being invisible and unvalued, how men are also harmed by patriarchy, how to make our relationships more egalitarian, and what changes we could make in society to value emotional labor.

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